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Pujols trade not an option

Posted on: January 29, 2011 11:56 am
Edited on: January 29, 2011 5:13 pm
Albert Pujols
Albert Pujols would exercise his 10-and-5 rights to veto any trade proposal, sources tell ESPN's Buster Olney, which leaves the Cardinals with two options: Sign him in the next three weeks, or hope to prevail when he enters free agency after the season.

The first baseman has said he won't be distracted by negotiating an extension once he reports for the season, which makes February 19 the deadline. If the Cardinals were to decide they wouldn't be able to afford Pujols, they could have softened the blow with a big haul they'd get by trading him to someone who wanted an impact addition and/or a leg up on courting him next winter. But if Pujols won't talk trade, the Cardinals will get nothing if they lose him (other than the two draft picks they'd receive for losing a Type A free agent).

Looks like it's all or nothing in the Gateway City.

-- David Andriesen

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Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: January 31, 2011 12:56 pm

Pujols trade not an option

If the Cards don't pony up the cash that is their perogotive.  If this gets contientious on either side egos and feelings will get hurt which always is bad for the club.  The idea is to sign the guy but don't let him hold a gun to your head while he's trying to do it.  He's one player, probably the best in the Majors right now and it will take more than him to bring a title to St. Louis.  He won't accept a of the BS things wrong with the current CBA.  Pay me or else I'll go FA at the end of the year...more BS.  The fans make the game not the players.  If the Cards can get a bunch of players for him they should be allowed.  If they don't want to pay the money man up Albert and take your chances in NY, California or just about anywhere and be thankful for the opportunity and the big dough the Cards have already paid you.  Tired of these spoiled brats dictating where they are going to go.  Albert is acting like the Cards are wanting to trade him to Pittsburgh or Oakland.  Come on and your agent know where the money is.  What purpose does it serve if the club feels like they've been strong armed?  Yeah guys like you come along once every 50 years or so but you don't have to rub the Cards noses in it.  They have been pretty good to you so far!

Since: Jul 26, 2008
Posted on: January 31, 2011 1:31 am

Pujols trade not an option

Buster Olney doesnt name his sources because he doesnt have any.

Since: May 28, 2007
Posted on: January 31, 2011 12:56 am

Pujols trade not an option

cunningham you might want to check your facts 'genius'. Yeah, Arod signed his first deal for 10 seasons and $252M with the Rangers, which was at the time the richest contract in history. He then signed another deal with the Yankees for 10 seasons and $275M after the 2007 season which became the new richest deal in history. Before you go spouting off you should probably know what your facts before you make yourself look stupid.

Since: Sep 16, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2011 10:54 pm

Pujols trade not an option

Arod didn't sign his deal with the Yankees genius.. He signed that deal with Texas. Pujols will sign with the Cardinals but I think it's going to very difficult for the Cardinals to build a team around him with 25% of their payroll going to one guy. 

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2011 8:45 pm

Pujols trade not an option

Put it in stone... Albert's not going anywhere. Sorry, dreamers. The brass will work out deferred payments and consultant/advisor position down the road. He is Stan the Man of the 21st Century and he's entrenched himself in the St. Louis Community. He'll take a small home team discount with promises that the Cards will strive for Championship status. ( They locked up Holliday to prove the point.) Don't ever assume that the Cards are going to wallow in mediocrity with a lineup of aces and spaces.

Deferred payments??? LMAO  Yeah right, maybe with their bank reps or investors, but not with Pujols that's for sure.  Are you serious man?

As for that small home team discount thing, give me a break.  You guys don't understand anything.  If it was that easy it would already be done.  Here, I have a fair deal for you.  Eight years for 184 million dollars.  That's 23 million dollars per season.  Perfect.   It's about 3 million dollars per season more then Miggy Cabrera gets on the Tigers for similar numbers and Pujols is even older by 3 years. And it's only 2 million less per year then the monster 250 million dollar deal Arod signed with the wealthy Yankees back in the day.

Why hasn't the deal already been signed?  Why has Pujols allowed his words to get out publicly twice now?  First he set a deadline for negotiations to be finished by and then he said he wouldn't allow a trade.....

The answers to those questions?  It's not that easy... there is no home team discount.. Pujols is demanding the farm and he's going to get it from somebody in MLB....  like it or not.

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 30, 2011 8:37 pm

Pujols trade not an option

The union absolutely CANNOT tell a player he cannot sign for a lesser contract. They can strongly suggest the player does not do it but IT IS ALLOWED. And yes players can give home team discounts. Which is what Pujols saidf he would do. As I metioned earlier in replying to one of your comments, which you then said I had no idea what I was talking about, Pujols said he would give a home team discount and was not looking to make a record deal. He wants to be there and the Cards want him. But there are numbers to crunch and it isnt something that will just "happen already" as you said earlier. I will say again, A DEAL WILL GET DONE.
Listen man. You don't understand how unions work. Sure, you might understand baseball and everything else that revolves around baseball but you don't completely understand unions.  Sure, the union can't publicly demand Pujols does anything.  But the bottom line there is an unwritten rule in unions.  That rule says you have to take care of your own when you are a leader in your industry.   It's not for everybody... but it certainly applies to guys like Pujols. 

You'll see. A deal may get done because the Cards almost have to do as he says.  But the deal will be a record deal.  Whether it's a record deal long term and the total committment by the Cards is the highest ever or the yearly salary is a record doesn't matter.  It WILL be a record deal.

Pujols lied.  He told the fans what they wanted to hear so that if a deal isn't in place by opening day he doesn't have to suffer the wrath of the fans.  Imagine if he said that anything short of a record deal and he's leaving St Louis?  All hell would break loose my friend...  he doesn't want distractions.  If there is no deal in place by opening day, he wants everything to stay calm and quiet so he can have another great year and have all the power in the world when he becomes a free agent.

If it was as easy as some of you think it is, a deal would already be done.  If Pujols wasn't demanding a record deal or he walks, the Cards would have already signed him.  It wouldn't be that hard.   If all he was asking for was 22 or 23 million per season for between 7 to 10 years we wouldn't be having this conversation.   He is demanding a record contract,,, and he's going to get it... from somebody.

Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2011 6:53 pm

Pujols trade not an option

REBEL41, One of the you the reasons the Cardinals had to use slop like Lohse for your 5th starter is because you had to cut Piniero and at least 2 other players to free up cash for Holliday.  Signing Holliday to that long contract actually hurt the Cardinals because of the players you lost.  You will lose even more players if Pujols asks for too many dollars and too many years.  If he settle for 5 year $25 per, that would be great for the Cardinals.  If he asks for 10 years, $30 per, I would let him go and spend money more wisely. 

As far as how much I follow the Cardinals.  I do realize that David Freese has been a minor league journeyman, who had 4 homers in 240 at bats last year in the majors.  Is Lance Berkman and his .240 average the more hitting you picked up?  Since you are the Cardinal expert, enighten me with the young pitching they have ready to step in.  Don't tell me Shelby Miller, who was 7-5 with a 3.63 era in low A.  He still has a few years before he makes an impact.

Since: Oct 4, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2011 3:16 pm

Pujols trade not an option

So your saying there's a chance he get's hurt and he has already made much money, good thinkin and true but since injuries happen I'd rather give my money to the best hitter in the world(there's a chance J Werth's 39 at the end of his huge contract). If Pujols doesn't get paid the Owner sits on it. Ticket prices rise every yr regardless. With that he I think he should take a home town discount especially if he value's his good guy rep.                                                                                                                                                                         P.S. as of last year we still had 15-18$ standing room tiks in Philly, you can still get into a ballgame fur 20 bucks, that adds up with 3 kids food and all i know, but if ya have an issue with the value of a dollar sign a petition supporting HR1207 or vote for Ron Paul!

Since: Dec 23, 2010
Posted on: January 30, 2011 1:57 pm

Pujols trade not an option

That is funny that you Posted getting rid of Loshe would hurt the Cardinals statscbi. He is thier fifth Starter at best. He is the weak link. Losing his 10 mil dollar contract will do nothing but help the Cardinals. They have young pitchers to replace the # 5 Starter. Now for Carpenter he used to be Great. He is on the downside now. I hope he has one very good year left in him this Year. We have picked up more hitting this Year as we could not score last Year if you followed the Cards. Plus we have our starting 3rd Basemen Back Freese who missed all of last year after a great Start. Dont fool yourself statscbi this Team is very good this Year. Pujols is the real deal so I wont even go into That.....

Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: January 30, 2011 1:48 pm

Pujols trade not an option

The Cardinals couldn't win the division  with Pujols, Holliday, Carpenter and Lohse.  By signing Pujols and getting rid of Carpenter and Lohse, that only makes the same team worse.  Their farm system is not very strong.  Pujols will be getting older.  Lebron Pujols has really put the Cardinals in a rough spot.  Saying that he will veto any trade proposal puts the Cardinals in a lose-lose situation.  As great of numbers that Pujols has put up, I don't trust him.  Never that great in college.  19 homers in 500 at bats in low A.  No testing for HGH. 
There is a chance that I'm wrong, but If I were the Cardinals I wouldn't bet 10 years $300 million on it.

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